Unrealistic simulation results on V2

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36Henry
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Re: Unrealistic simulation results on V2

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Oh right. I see :lol:
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Re: Unrealistic simulation results on V2

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Went with BRHL ratings cause 36Henry didn't want to share/provide :D

The SC PA are definitely shocking to my GMs lol, but everyone is the same :) If future versions can adjust the SC/PA to be not as shocking, that'd be welcomed by my GMs lol.

So far, I'm generally happy with how the ratings worked in pre-season. Our season started yesterday and I can't wait for the results at the quarter mark.

I've always believed 2.1 was the best simulator and just needed some time for Raters to figure it out. Having two guys that understand and pushing 2.1 is a very good thing. The key should be that GMs are able to ice line ups that can be adjusted for different scenarios/types of play/situations. Past few couple seasons on 2.1 now and personally I feel that especially in playoffs, you can read the output and make positive adjustments based on that.

I would like that Crosby, on a bad team, probably shouldn't be leading scorer of the league :)

Thanks and hope you guys keep figuring out the best ratings for the best sim version.
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Re: Unrealistic simulation results on V2

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ynohtna wrote:Went with BRHL ratings cause 36Henry didn't want to share/provide :D
Excuse me? What are you talking about? Maybe you could/should have asked me to "share/provide"?

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Re: Unrealistic simulation results on V2

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Yea I did, it's in the old thread in January you linked earlier
ynohtna wrote:Can I see your league ratings too? My test sim was somewhat ok but now people are getting super lines which score like crazy.

I've tried to adjust the ratings but ran out of time and got flack from my GMs for too much adjustments

I would like to see 2.1 work better
36Henry wrote:Not sure I want to get into too much detail as some people have approached me in the past about selling a set of ratings in the future (as I've seen some other dudes do around here). Wouldn't want to give away too many trade secrets :lol:
http://sths.simont.info/Forum/viewtopic ... 258#p46258
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Re: Unrealistic simulation results on V2

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Hehe...

When I was trying the 2.1 engine, I didn't have one single game ending with less than 20 goals, for 5 seasons of testing. The sliders in the Options-area didn't make any difference. Someone complained about having 10+ 70 goal scorers. You should have seen my test results! :D
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Re: Unrealistic simulation results on V2

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yeah I have made over 20 seasons of testings and the problem of 2.1 is no middle ground... all offense or all defense but almost impossible to have the middle. If you shut down the scoring you'll have goalies with .950 pct and wrost teams with a 15-55-12 record.
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Re: Unrealistic simulation results on V2

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Yes it's true about the goalies but I'm happy with the overall results of the teams and league in general. Managed teams do better.

Some stats of my league thus far. Great for scoring, not so great about goaltending but at least it's even across the board so it's cancelled out pretty much. Lol ovie on his way to -35 just like NHL last year :) Hoping the ratings guys can find something to deal with change up goaltending!

# Player Name GP G A P +/-
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1 Tyler Seguin (THR) 45 29 33 62 9
2 John Tavares (NOK) 47 29 33 62 24
3 Phil Kessel (AVI) 45 28 31 59 2
4 Sidney Crosby (NES) 47 25 29 54 14
5 Jamie Benn (HBR) 45 21 30 51 11
6 Claude Giroux (BOM) 46 20 30 50 24
7 Jonathan Toews (AVI) 45 18 32 50 1
8 Patrick Marleau (BOM) 46 24 23 47 24
9 Zach Parise (THR) 45 21 25 46 11
10 Thomas Vanek (NES) 47 21 25 46 6
11 Jeff Carter (NOK) 47 19 27 46 24
12 Joe Pavelski (NOK) 47 22 21 43 13
13 Shea Weber (WOR) 46 20 22 42 5
14 Marian Hossa (HBR) 45 18 22 40 13
15 Kyle Okposo (PHI) 46 18 22 40 6
16 Martin St Louis (FLU) 46 16 24 40 8
17 Anze Kopitar (PHI) 46 13 25 38 2
18 Oliver Ekman-Larsson (BOM) 46 14 23 37 17
19 Ryan Kesler (HBR) 45 15 21 36 21
20 Matt Duchene (TIG) 47 10 26 36 -1
21 Alex Ovechkin (WOR) 44 19 16 35 -12
22 James Neal (STO) 45 17 18 35 9


# Goalie Name GP W L OTL PCT GAA
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1 Marc-Andre Fleury (STO) 40 33 2 4 0.962 1.16
2 Cory Schneider (BOM) 40 34 3 3 0.954 1.30
3 Brian Elliott (HBR) 44 29 9 6 0.948 1.50
4 Ben Bishop (SUV) 46 20 18 8 0.948 1.52
5 Carey Price (TOT) 38 28 7 3 0.945 1.53
Carey Price (WOR) 6 4 2 0 0.929 2.14
Carey Price (NOK) 32 24 5 3 0.949 1.42
6 Tuukka Rask (PHI) 41 24 11 6 0.946 1.60
7 Henrik Lundqvist (TIG) 47 26 12 9 0.942 1.64
8 Kari Lehtonen (SHE) 46 25 15 6 0.940 1.65
9 Jaroslav Halak (NES) 35 23 9 3 0.940 1.70
10 Steve Mason (ALP) 46 18 17 11 0.939 1.73
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