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En se moment, les séries en 2e rondes ne sont pas correct.

La ronde 1 est ok.

Divison 1:
1. Washington Vs WC2 Philly
2. Caroline Vs 3. Rangers


Division 2:
1. Detroit Vs WC1 New Jersey
2. Montréal Vs 3. Ottawa




En 2e Ronde on devrait voir ceci:

Divison 1:
2. Caroline Vs WC2 Philly

Division 2:
1. Detroit Vs 2. Montréal


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Les séries sont par division!!!!

En plus c'est l'ordre d'affichage du output est mélangé. On devrait voir sa comme plus haut. pas comme ceci:

Round : 1
Philadelphia Flyers - 4
Washington Capitals - 2

New Jersey Devils - 1
Detroit Red Wings - 4

Ottawa Senators - 3
Montreal Canadiens - 4

New York Rangers - 1
Carolina Hurricanes - 4



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Le 2e ronde des Playoff n'est pas basé sur les Division mais sur les points comme avant. (Source : http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=660138)

Malheureusement, ton site web ne contient pas le TEST-ProStanding.html donc je ne peux pas confirmer.
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Voilà mes sources:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=416887
It would be divisional playoffs, not conference playoffs, so 1 vs. 4, 2 vs 3 in the first round. The two fourth seeds would be made up of the wild-card teams. The top division winner based on regular-season points in the standings would face off against the lower-ranked wild-card team. The other division winner would play the higher-ranked wild-card.

First-round winners then meet in second round in the division championship; Third round sees Pacific winner vs. Mid-West winner in Western Conference finals; Central winner versus Atlantic winner in Eastern Conference finals; Eastern and Western Conference champions meet in Stanley Cup finals.

2e source: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=660138
The top three teams in each division will make up the first 12 teams in the playoffs. The remaining four spots will be filled by the next two highest-placed finishers in each conference, based on regular-season points and regardless of division. It will be possible, then, for one division to send five teams to the postseason while the other sends three.

The seeding of the wild-card teams within each divisional playoff will be determined on the basis of regular-season points. The division winner with the most points in the conference will be matched against the wild-card team with the fewest points; the division winner with the second-most points in the conference will play the wild-card team with the second fewest points.

The teams finishing second and third in each division will play in the first round of the playoffs. The winners of each series will play for berths in the conference championship series.

The winners of the conference championships advance to the Stanley Cup Final.
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There is many links saying that the second round of the playoffs is a division championship (not conference based) on the web. My only question, what if division A leader gets knock out of the playoffs by a division B Wild card. Can't find anything on that situation
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the way I see it ..playoffs are DIVISION based and Wild Cards have NO DIVISIONS

so
ATLANTIC = 1A , 2A , 3A
METRO = 1M , 2M, 3M
WILD CARD = 1W , 2W ( both could be from the same division)

1 2 3 4
1st round would be (1A vs 2W) , (1M vs 1W) , (2A vs 3A) , (2M vs 3M)

1 2
2nd round would be (winner of 1 vs winner of 3) , (winner of 2 vs winner of 4)

3rd round is for conference winner ( winner of 1 vs winner of 2) Winner is Conference leader

same for other conference

source = NHL.com

The Stanley Cup Playoffs will still consist of 16 teams, eight in each conference, but it will be division-based and a wild-card system has been added.

The top three teams in each division will make up the first 12 teams in the playoffs. The remaining four spots will be filled by the next two highest-placed finishers in each conference, based on regular-season points and regardless of division. It will be possible, then, for one division to send five teams to the postseason while the other sends just three.

Seeding of the wild-card teams within each divisional playoff will be determined on the basis of regular-season points. The division winner with the most points in the conference will be matched against the wild-card team with the fewest points; the division winner with the second-most points in the conference will play the wild-card team with the second-fewest points.

The teams finishing second and third in each division will play in the first round of the playoffs. The winners of each opening-round series will play for berths in the conference championship series.

The winners of the conference championships advance to the Stanley Cup Final.
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That would make sence. From what I've heard, even real GMs can't make sence of the new playoff format!
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Dans ma ligue, si les séries débutaient ce soir. Le Wild Card #1 aurait plus de points que le 1er de la division. Donc le 1er de cette division serait le plus désavtangé puisqu'il affronterait un plus fort que lui....
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ca c'est pas un probleme de STHS..c'est juste la nouvelle facon que la NHL a decider de faire les series
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Str_QNHL wrote:ca c'est pas un probleme de STHS..c'est juste la nouvelle facon que la NHL a decider de faire les series
Non effectivement, j'appuyais seulement que le fait que c'était cave le système de wild card... Pas d'allure que ton Wild card #1 ait plus de pts que le 1er d'une division....

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From my side, I have the same question.
First-round winners then meet in second round in the division championship; Third round sees Pacific winner vs. Mid-West winner in Western Conference finals; Central winner versus Atlantic winner in Eastern Conference finals; Eastern and Western Conference champions meet in Stanley Cup finals.
I understand this correctly but I'm curious like Starfrit, what happen if you have 3 teams from the same division in 2nd round because this cannot apply.

The teams finishing second and third in each division will play in the first round of the playoffs. The winners of each series will play for berths in the conference championship series.
Here I understand is that second round is conference based playoff (1 vs 4, 2 vs 3) based on conference standing.

Here is Wikipedia saying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Cup_playoffs)
Beginning in 2014 the first round of the playoffs, or Division Semifinals, consists of two match-ups in each division, based on the seedings (No. 1 vs. No. 4, No. 2 vs. No. 3). The top-ranked team in the conference plays the lower-ranked wild-card team; the other division winner plays the higher-ranked wild-card team (one or both wild-card teams may cross over to another division within the conference), while the next two seeds in each division play each other. In the second round, or Division Finals, the top remaining division seed plays against the lowest division seed. In the third round, the Conference Finals, the two division champions play each other, with the conference champions proceeding to the Stanley Cup Final.
TSN Wording but again, what happen when you have 3 team in 1 division in second round?
The NHL will realign into a four-division, two-conference system for the 2013–14 season. Under the new postseason system, the top three teams in each division will make the playoffs, with 2 wild-cards in each conference (for a total of 8 playoff teams from each conference). The format will be division based, similar to the 1981–82 system. In the first round, the top ranked team in the conference plays against the lower ranked wild-card, while the other division winner plays against the higher ranked wild-card. The second and third place teams in each division will then play each other. The first round winners will then meet in the second round, the Divisional Finals. The third round will still consist of the Western Conference Finals and Eastern Conference Finals.
Here, my understand is conference based.

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Someone made me aware of this for the 2nd round

If in the 1st round a wildcard team played against another division leader, the wildcard team then switch division. So if the wildcard team eliminates the other division leader, he will then play against the other division winner of the series between 2nd and 3rd place.
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top 3 teams of each division make the playoffs
the Wild card teams go into the playoffs as WILD CARD ( NO DIVISION)
they are added to the divisions 1 in each division
so whatever division they are added to becomes their division
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SimonT wrote:From my side, I have the same question.
First-round winners then meet in second round in the division championship; Third round sees Pacific winner vs. Mid-West winner in Western Conference finals; Central winner versus Atlantic winner in Eastern Conference finals; Eastern and Western Conference champions meet in Stanley Cup finals.
I understand this correctly but I'm curious like Starfrit, what happen if you have 3 teams from the same division in 2nd round because this cannot apply.
En fait, l'équipe Wild Card appartient désormais à la division attribué pour les séries. Donc, mettons que le Wild Card #1 provient de la Division B, et bat le 1er de la Division A, il demeure dans la Division A. Il affronte le gagant de 2 et 3 de la Division A. Le Wild Card #2 provient de la division A et bat le #1 de la division B, il va affronter le gagnant de 2 et 3 de la Division B.


The teams finishing second and third in each division will play in the first round of the playoffs. The winners of each series will play for berths in the conference championship series.

Here I understand is that second round is conference based playoff (1 vs 4, 2 vs 3) based on conference standing.

Here is Wikipedia saying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Cup_playoffs)
Ici tu comprends pas bien le ''The winners of each series will play for berths in the conference championship series.''

Ce qui est en gras et souligné est traduit par: Les gagnants de la 1ere ronde, vont s'affronter dans le but de décrocher une place dans la finale de conférence.

En gros:

Ronde 1 = 1/2 finale de Division
Ronde 2 = Finale de Division
Ronde 3 = Finale de Conférence
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Voici un exemple que 3 gagnants de la meme division
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Si le Wild Card #2 appartient a la division Atlantic, mais qu'en série, il va dans la division Metropolitan et il y demeure le reste des séries.

En gros, on pourrait attribué un trophée après la 2e ronde pour le Champions des Division et que se soit un Wild Card de l'autre division
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